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	<title>Comments on: Back to Baking - Honey Challah</title>
	<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/</link>
	<description>Jews, Food, and Contemporary Issues</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leora</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6828</link>
		<dc:creator>leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah - what are you flour ratios? Sounds yummy! Thanks Elena for this post - that is EXACTLY how I get through Pesach as well, though I wouldn't have known to verbalize that truth (guilt, maybe :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah - what are you flour ratios? Sounds yummy! Thanks Elena for this post - that is EXACTLY how I get through Pesach as well, though I wouldn&#8217;t have known to verbalize that truth (guilt, maybe :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6791</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried a blend of AP, spelt and Kamut flours?? They make for a great, rich-tasting bread that's not too heavy. It's my current obsession!

PS - yay for challah... its a fave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried a blend of AP, spelt and Kamut flours?? They make for a great, rich-tasting bread that&#8217;s not too heavy. It&#8217;s my current obsession!</p>
<p>PS - yay for challah&#8230; its a fave!</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6788</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww! This makes me so happy. I need to make this at some point. I have never made my own challah and this recipe is telling me it's about time I start!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww! This makes me so happy. I need to make this at some point. I have never made my own challah and this recipe is telling me it&#8217;s about time I start!</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6783</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS--The King Arthur website lists a lot of kosher products, including many flours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8211;The King Arthur website lists a lot of kosher products, including many flours!</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6782</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6782</guid>
		<description>To all the challah bakers--thanks for the tips!

Nick, it's great to get your suggestions here.  I feel like my cookbook is speaking to me!  I never realized that the dough could rise too much; it seems counter-intuitive that getting too tall would be the thing to make the challah flat...chalk that up to my beginner-baker status.  I love the idea of spraying honey on the challah.  I'm sure my kids would love that too!

Rachel, do Nick's suggestions help you out at all?

Debby, thanks for the lead on King Arthur.  I just looked at their website www.kingarthurflour.com and I'm definitely going to try the organic white whole wheat.  An employee-owned company that talks about a culture of inclusiveness--I'm buying!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the challah bakers&#8211;thanks for the tips!</p>
<p>Nick, it&#8217;s great to get your suggestions here.  I feel like my cookbook is speaking to me!  I never realized that the dough could rise too much; it seems counter-intuitive that getting too tall would be the thing to make the challah flat&#8230;chalk that up to my beginner-baker status.  I love the idea of spraying honey on the challah.  I&#8217;m sure my kids would love that too!</p>
<p>Rachel, do Nick&#8217;s suggestions help you out at all?</p>
<p>Debby, thanks for the lead on King Arthur.  I just looked at their website <a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kingarthurflour.com</a> and I&#8217;m definitely going to try the organic white whole wheat.  An employee-owned company that talks about a culture of inclusiveness&#8211;I&#8217;m buying!</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6774</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6774</guid>
		<description>Your Challah loaves look great! It is one of my favorite breads...

I have also tried Joan Nathan's Wholewheat Challah and it was gorgeous!

Cheers,

Rosa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Challah loaves look great! It is one of my favorite breads&#8230;</p>
<p>I have also tried Joan Nathan&#8217;s Wholewheat Challah and it was gorgeous!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Rosa</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Scarpin</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6771</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Scarpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6771</guid>
		<description>That is a wonderful loaf of bread!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful loaf of bread!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Malgieri</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6770</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Malgieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6770</guid>
		<description>Dear Elena,

Phyllis forwarded me your very kind e-mail and a link to read about your challah adventures, which are fun and informative.  I actually started out writing for newspaper food sections by covering Jewish holiday pastries for the Daily News years ago - no one was interested in doing it, so I was able to fill a gap.  I wrote about Teyglech, Hammantaschen, and did countless Passover dessert stories.

Now, about the challah.  Normally you get that flattening out when the braid has risen too much right before being baked.  Like any other dough or batter that has too much air or leavening, it just can't set quickly enough to stay risen.  You have further compromised the elastic strength of the dough by adding a non-gluten-forming flour.  A less elastic dough will also have trouble holding in enough air to stay risen.  Brushing cold honey on the braid might also deflate it a little, just from the pressure of the brush against the dough.  

So here are my suggestions:  under- rather than over-do the final rise before baking; use Yocheved's recipe the way it appears in the book - she is probably the most talented teacher of Kosher cooking and baking ever to teach in the New York area (she now lives in Tel Aviv).  No challah recipe of hers would ever resemble Wonder Bread, I assure you.  If you must paint the outside with honey, warm it slightly to liquefy it, then add a little water.  If you have a clean atomizer or spray bottle, use that to apply it so you're not putting pressure on the risen dough with a brush.

Mazel tov,

Nick Malgieri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Elena,</p>
<p>Phyllis forwarded me your very kind e-mail and a link to read about your challah adventures, which are fun and informative.  I actually started out writing for newspaper food sections by covering Jewish holiday pastries for the Daily News years ago - no one was interested in doing it, so I was able to fill a gap.  I wrote about Teyglech, Hammantaschen, and did countless Passover dessert stories.</p>
<p>Now, about the challah.  Normally you get that flattening out when the braid has risen too much right before being baked.  Like any other dough or batter that has too much air or leavening, it just can&#8217;t set quickly enough to stay risen.  You have further compromised the elastic strength of the dough by adding a non-gluten-forming flour.  A less elastic dough will also have trouble holding in enough air to stay risen.  Brushing cold honey on the braid might also deflate it a little, just from the pressure of the brush against the dough.  </p>
<p>So here are my suggestions:  under- rather than over-do the final rise before baking; use Yocheved&#8217;s recipe the way it appears in the book - she is probably the most talented teacher of Kosher cooking and baking ever to teach in the New York area (she now lives in Tel Aviv).  No challah recipe of hers would ever resemble Wonder Bread, I assure you.  If you must paint the outside with honey, warm it slightly to liquefy it, then add a little water.  If you have a clean atomizer or spray bottle, use that to apply it so you&#8217;re not putting pressure on the risen dough with a brush.</p>
<p>Mazel tov,</p>
<p>Nick Malgieri</p>
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		<title>By: ShopLittleGifts</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6763</link>
		<dc:creator>ShopLittleGifts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6763</guid>
		<description>WOW that looks good. I just made french toast yesterday with challah. It's the best bread, soaks up all the milk and egg mixture. Btw, try adding a little cinammon, it will be great mix with the honey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW that looks good. I just made french toast yesterday with challah. It&#8217;s the best bread, soaks up all the milk and egg mixture. Btw, try adding a little cinammon, it will be great mix with the honey.</p>
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		<title>By: debby</title>
		<link>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6754</link>
		<dc:creator>debby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://jcarrot.org/back-to-baking-honey-challah/#comment-6754</guid>
		<description>Have you tried white wheat flour? King Arthur makes it, and it's a whole wheat flour that's much lighter than the regular whole wheat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried white wheat flour? King Arthur makes it, and it&#8217;s a whole wheat flour that&#8217;s much lighter than the regular whole wheat.</p>
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