Comments on: Where’s the Beef? (In the Test Tube) http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/ Jews, Food, and Contemporary Issues Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:50:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: lauren ahkiam http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5547 lauren ahkiam Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:54:50 +0000 http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5547 hmm...we were just discussing this tension in a class i'm taking, how to balance behavioral modification with technology. it's tricky! on the one hand, i don't see meat eaters giving up the (literal) goat anytime soon, but on the other hand, test tube meat is creepy and doesn't do a lot to reduce overall animal product consumption. and i would guess because of the intensity of producing it, it's still not low-impact. as a vegetarian...not sure how i feel. hmm…we were just discussing this tension in a class i’m taking, how to balance behavioral modification with technology. it’s tricky!

on the one hand, i don’t see meat eaters giving up the (literal) goat anytime soon, but on the other hand, test tube meat is creepy and doesn’t do a lot to reduce overall animal product consumption. and i would guess because of the intensity of producing it, it’s still not low-impact.

as a vegetarian…not sure how i feel.

]]> By: Kerr http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5524 Kerr Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:34:51 +0000 http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5524 Not everyone can healthily be vegetarian, and if it were proven to have no side effects AND to be really better for the environment (not just greenwashing or appeasing a certain segment of nebulously-grounded vegetarians) I would probably consider in vitro meat and weigh its other costs and benefits. But I have a strong suspicion that the lab infrastructure needed to support IV meat on a commercial scale would be more energy intensive and ecologically damaging than even factory farming. We do need a paradigm shift, and I eat more meat than I need even considering that I do need it (or at least the alternatives are also bad). In terms of making hardcore sustainability cool, I'm interested in what these folks over here are doing: http://www.riot4austerity.org/ http://casaubonsbook.blogspot.com/2007/05/starting-riot-for-austerity.html Not everyone can healthily be vegetarian, and if it were proven to have no side effects AND to be really better for the environment (not just greenwashing or appeasing a certain segment of nebulously-grounded vegetarians) I would probably consider in vitro meat and weigh its other costs and benefits. But I have a strong suspicion that the lab infrastructure needed to support IV meat on a commercial scale would be more energy intensive and ecologically damaging than even factory farming.

We do need a paradigm shift, and I eat more meat than I need even considering that I do need it (or at least the alternatives are also bad). In terms of making hardcore sustainability cool, I’m interested in what these folks over here are doing: http://www.riot4austerity.org/ http://casaubonsbook.blogspot......erity.html

]]> By: Leah Koenig http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5508 Leah Koenig Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:07:55 +0000 http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5508 Hey Avi - those are incredibly interesting questions. My gut instinct based on zero percent fact would be "no" on all fronts. To grow tissue, don't you have to start with something that is tissue (meaning, wouldn't it still be from an animal at some level)? That said, I definitely don't know the exact science behind it (or even the murky science) - and there's definitely a lot of gray area. I'd never heard of Soylent Green KRG - how incredibly creepy! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/plotsummary Hey Avi - those are incredibly interesting questions. My gut instinct based on zero percent fact would be “no” on all fronts. To grow tissue, don’t you have to start with something that is tissue (meaning, wouldn’t it still be from an animal at some level)? That said, I definitely don’t know the exact science behind it (or even the murky science) - and there’s definitely a lot of gray area.

I’d never heard of Soylent Green KRG - how incredibly creepy! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/plotsummary

]]> By: KRG http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5501 KRG Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:04:14 +0000 http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5501 Green revolution? How about soylent green, too - after all, you could in theory grow long pork, too, and people could eat it - why not... EWEEEEw. Can we roll this one back please? Green revolution? How about soylent green, too - after all, you could in theory grow long pork, too, and people could eat it - why not…
EWEEEEw.
Can we roll this one back please?

]]> By: Avi http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5496 Avi Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:10:41 +0000 http://jcarrot.org/wheres-the-beef-in-the-test-tube/#comment-5496 Beyond the OU-meat on beef, there are even more interesting questions. Is it still considered meat, or is it parve since it didn't come from an animal? What about Pork? Could you have a kosher ham and cheese sandwich? Would vegetarians eat in-vitro meat since an animal didn't have to die? Beyond the OU-meat on beef, there are even more interesting questions. Is it still considered meat, or is it parve since it didn’t come from an animal? What about Pork? Could you have a kosher ham and cheese sandwich? Would vegetarians eat in-vitro meat since an animal didn’t have to die?

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